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Surrender or negotiated Settlement

 

the pace of the Russian advance is picking up speed.

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this is a war of attrition and anything and everything in its totality that you can get from the combined west can never match what is the Russian side is having because they view this as an existential fight and they calculated it in the long term. They were patient and now then after almost four years they have reached critical mass and now the likelihood is the pace is going to pick up. It's going to go faster.

2025 12 28 TS Trump Putin

 

There is no chance for this war to be solved in a positive way militarily for the Ukraine side. That has long since gone. That evaporated really at the end of 2022, but authoritatively in 2023, and it's only gone downhill since.

[. . .]

You are going to be shocked one day when there's going to be a collapse someplace and Ukraine won't be able to function anymore as a state or as a military and then we're going to have a whole new set of problems.

 

At some point, you're going to have to come up with a hard decision to do what is forced upon you. I won't even call it the right thing or the wrong thing or anything else. I'm going to say what is required because if you don't voluntarily surrender this territory through negotiations and withdraw from it, then it will be taken from you. Now, you can say you don't want to do that. And the Europeans are are with this point that they think that they can hold out. They think that the Ukraine side can hold out. And so presumably behind the scenes they're saying to Ukraine, don't give in on this issue. They're apparently trying to convince Trump not to go in on this issue, not to agree to it. All they're doing is setting the stage for more Ukrainian deaths. I'm just going to categorically say this. It's it should be self-evident at this point. You are condemning more Ukrainian people to death and you will lose not just those four oblasts that that are on the table negotiations right now. You'll lose much more

 

 2025 12 29 TOI Trump Putin Ukraine

 

you're going to see that Zellinsky is telling you in very clear ways, to anyone willing to look at the truth, there will be no negotiated settlement. This war will be settled on the battlefield. And now then it's going to be up to the Russian side to see if they can make good on their claims because President Putin the day before this speech was made, or this interview, said either you're going to do what we say. I don't care about whether you're going to withdraw from territory or we will take it by force. That is his claim. And and now then based on what Zelinsky is saying here and the actions that have come out of those conversations, it looks like they're going to put Putin to the test. It's like a game of poker. and somebody throws down their cards and they say, "Call. I call you." I think that's what's happened here is that Zelinsky has called Putin and says, "Okay, we're gonna find out. Are you bluffing or are you not?" That's where we are today. I'm very confident that that Russia is not bluffing and that calling is going to mean that whole pot is going to end up going to the Russian side.

 

2025 12 31 TS Trump Putin

The drone strike likely never happened. Zelensky vigorously denied it. Peskov said the Russians could provide no evidence, and urged the press to “take the Kremlin’s word for it.”

nypost.com - Putin ‘attack’ bluster shows Russia is the one standing in the way of peace

 

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Per Hanson replied the topic:
3 months 4 days ago
Follow the money!

As he boarded the night train to Ukraine,  Boris Johnson  had the usual entourage of aides and bodyguards – plus the man who had given him £1m

Less than a year had passed since Johnson accepted what is thought to be the largest donation ever to an individual MP. It was from Christopher Harborne, one of the UK’s biggest and most private political donors.

Harborne, whose millions helped bankroll Brexit, made the payment to a private company Johnson set up after resigning as prime minister. Now leaked files show that Johnson, a champion of Ukraine in office and since, was accompanied in September 2023 by his benefactor on a two-day visit that included meetings with top officials.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/10/the-1m-man-why-did-boris-johnson-take-his-donor-to-ukraine

Editor replied the topic:
1 month 3 weeks ago
Vast amount of money lost to corruption!

the latest revelation has been a hundred million dollar payback scheme that was engineered by one of Zelinsky's close associates. And when that came up, that was about a week ago, maybe two week almost two weeks ago, it it was brought by the Ukrainian anti-corruption investigators and they have been put into gear mainly because of pressure by the United States. So, so that's kind of the tip of the iceberg. That that's just small potatoes because if we look at the total amount of money that's been pumped into Ukraine since 2022, it's about $360 billion. And out of that, I estimate that the corruption's running be somewhere between 15 and 30% of that. Probably towards the 30% line. That's what the auditors found with the involvement in the United States in Afghanistan. The corruption was running at 30% in Afghanistan. I think it's probably pretty close to that in Ukraine. So we're talking Mike about big bucks. We've got at 15% of the corruption money go lining the pockets of the of the corrupt 54 billion and at 30% it would be 108 billion.

Editor replied the topic:
1 month 3 weeks ago
Kick-backs?

The European leaders are ignorant and are the puppets of NATO. They are too stupid to see that the Neocons are manipulating them. This nonsense that Ukraine should not be split is insane. That was the ONLY way to stop the ethnic killing in Yugoslavia. Czechoslovakia split in two as well. The Minsk Agreement, which even Germany signed, was to allow the Donbas to vote. Merz refusal to honor the word of Germany is dooming Europe to World War III. If they reall want peace, surrender the Donbas. Else, then sacrifice all of Europe to a third world war. There will NEVER be peace with Russia because people like Kallas hate the Russian people.

The only way for Europe to avoid this war is to stand up and demand that they have a say in creating war. European leaders will lie and put Europe at risk for Ukraine, the most corrupt nation on Earth. Zelensky’s Chief of Staff is now implicated in stealing $100 million. How musch more money will the West hand these people to stuff in their private accounts. They never get enough. Are they paying kickbacks to NATO and Europeans leaders?  

www.armstrongeconomics.com  - Is European Leaders Being Manipulated by NATO?

Editor replied the topic:
1 month 3 weeks ago
The destruction of Europe

War is a great way to default on debts. You get to form a new government, and they always disavow the debts of the previous government. Europe has been committing economic suicide. Between the COVID-19 Lockdowns, the NET-ZERO Climate Change, and then the sanctions on Russia that doubled their fuel costs, you could not ask for a more brain-dead group of politicians who have ZERO comprehension of even how the economy functions.

www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/boris-johnson-urges-ukraine-to-continue-war


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